Bman69 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 MSN® Direct is available for AVIC-F900BT, AVIC-F90BT and AVIC-F500BT. MSN Direct requires service subscription (sold separately by MSN Direct). Free 3 months trial of MSN Direct Service is included. To receive MSN Direct on an MSN Direct-ready device, you must be within an MSN Direct coverage area. Coverage areas are affected by reception limitations of the FM network as well as other factors, which may affect the ability of the unit to receive FM broadcasts. MSN Direct is a trademark of the Microsoft group of companies notice they talk about the FM signal.. .leads me to believe they transmit over that :/ dunno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coldheartinc Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 the actual wire for man direct runs directly through your cars fm input. So basically your antenna feeds man direct the information. Kind of like them sending bits of information like station name and song name that is and can be viewed on some headunits or most head units today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ravage Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Just so you know that MSN direct is broadcast over FM frequencys. It also requires a custom reciever chip, this chip is also encrypted, so there is no software hack to get it working. I also doubt that the chip exists in the 700bt, so while the software might exist on the unit it is functionaly useless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
another gsxr 1k Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 This is intreresting, I've noticed that the files do appear to be there too. Someone posted a copy of the F90 / F900 service manual. If we could get a copy of the 700 serive manual we could look at the boards to compare as they're reasonably detailed. In the Data.zip files under config/devices there are seperate config files for the 746 / 749 UC / EW models in the configs the only differences are under the sound category. The 749UC has this [sound] device_id=0 use_method=5 use_os_volume=1 dynamic_volume_type=0 The 746UC has this [sound] device_id=1 use_os_volume=1 use_method=5 method5_maxvolume=40349 dynamic_volume_type=0 all other sections are the same. Has anyone tried adding those lines to the config so bother read the same? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackh8552 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I am working on buying a 700 cheap that has no sound output. i want to use it as a test unit and load the f90 software on it .. will see if i can get it for under $100 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adhesive Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 The idea of the 700bt being equipped with the necessary hardware to access MSN Direct is not out of the realm of possibility. Many manufactures reduce costs when targeting multiple price-markets by retaining a single manufacturing process and limiting/disabling features via software tweaks. Some of the more notoriously overclock-able CPUs are great examples of this, right? Good luck to those trying to figure it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaosnexstacy Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 What about a reg editor? Can we do anything like that. I do it with my phone all the time. I am unsure if you can do the same stuff with the diff erent versions of windows or if it would have to be differently. What if its as simple as changing a value from 0 to 1? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkMaster Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Many manufactures reduce costs when targeting multiple price-markets by retaining a single manufacturing process and limiting/disabling features via software tweaks. Some of the more notoriously overclock-able CPUs are great examples of this, right? Good luck to those trying to figure it out. Don't forget GPU's. Which until recently were virtually all exactly the same across a generation with software lockouts like, separate VGA BIOS. I remember Turning a X800 into an X850XTPE with a simple VGA BIOS update, saved myself nearly 200 bucks. More recently however, both ATI and NVIDIA have began to use Laser cuts in the GPU die to prevent these kinds of modifications. For Pioneer it would make sense to utilize a single manufacturing process, it means they don't have to run separate production lines, since they are all identical from a hardware standpoint. all they have to do is load the separate software on the units and presto, a tiered product line up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dumpystig Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 another gsxr, methinks you've fucked up there with your avatar LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psycho9x Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Hey guys, im new here but would like to offer up my 4 cents (inflation)...It is VERY common for companies to do this, look at it from there end say we make the board with an RDS decoder on it then we have to make a whole new board without the RDS decoder on it, why wwould we do this when the decoder chip only cost us pennies each caues we buy them in bulk. Like was said before about the video cards, it does happen. Another bit of info is that RDS is just like the XM signal, its one way. Now if the 700 has the decoder and someone made a software mod to enable it, it could surely receive the MSN info. Has anyone opened up a unit to see if in fact the boards are the same? more useless info, I work for the company that provides microsoft with its traffic data!! By the way my F700BT shall be in my hands on monday!! HOPEFULLY! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bmatlock00 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 So no one has loaded a F900BT/F90BT flash disk onto a F700BT? I thought someone on here would have done this by now. I had the F900BT a few weeks back and hated it. I reinstalled my D3 within a few days. However I picked up a F700BT on ebay for $250 and going to put it in my work car, just to play around with, and if the next update is good enough I might swap it with the D3. I would be willing to load the F900BT/F90BT flash disk onto it if someone can provide the file. Its pretty big I believe around 1.6gb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paQ Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 they are the same (besides DVD and speed pulse) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bmatlock00 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 and msn direct obviously, did you read the thread? I know they are pretty much the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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