stryk3r Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I think it's time to start a new thread for this topic, as the ISO begging thread was for ISO begging and the Image is now available to all. I think we should move our discussion here so we can all experiment with different drives types and speeds and find out what the best replacement, and the fastest replacement drives are that will work in our Nav systems without it rebooted periosically. I tested the stock HDD and of course it doesn't reboot at all, but I also tried an 80GB 5400 Hitchachi HTS548080M9AT00, and it reboots about every 15 - 30 mins. Lets share our results edit: I just took my 80GB out for a ride again (might as well I forgot to disable the ATA password, DOH) and I find that it seems to reboot less, when I am driving. if I am still (ie programming my POI Overlays) I find it reboots about every 15 mins, but when I am driving around it can take an 30-45 minutes, maybe it's just coincidence but if would lead some backing to the theory that the draw in current could be the reason for rebooting, is it possible that when driving around that the alternator is providing more power and the system doesn't reboot as much until I slow down or stop, (like when I stopped for some BK burgers, it rebooted while I was waiting, but not at all for the first part of a 45 min drive. Any other thoughts as to what is causing the reboots? is any manufacturer better then another? will a 7200 RPM Toshiba drive work properly and boot even faster then 5400 RPM Toshiba drive 4034GAX what is supposed to work fine with extended music? could empty free space on the drives be casing the issue... maybe the drive tries to read into the empty parts of the larger drives we've been trying.... Please all ideas and comments welcome Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garrettoomey Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I downloaded the image from the newsgroups for my install. I also have the torrents still downloading and will continue to seed them for several weeks once they complete. I tried to install to a Fujitsu 60gb MHV2060AH 5400 rpm drive ($60 at Fry's), and it completed the update, then rebooted quite frequently. Next I bit the bullet, and used the password unlocker ($5) on my original drive (no z1 backup to fall back to), turned ata security off, and then installed the image on the original drive. No rebooting issues. Everything is working great. FYI... you will loose all library music, and your GPS address book. I am in the DFW area if anyone needs some assistance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mickeyvnminnie Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 FUJITSU MHV2060AH 60GB 5400rpm reboots too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stryk3r Posted August 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I downloaded the image from the newsgroups for my install. I also have the torrents still downloading and will continue to seed them for several weeks once they complete. I tried to install to a Fujitsu MHV2060AH 5400 rpm drive ($60 at Fry's), and it completed the update, then rebooted quite frequently. Next I bit the bullet, and used the password unlocker ($5) on my original drive (no z1 backup to fall back to), turned ata security off, and then installed the image on th eoriginal drive. No rebooting issues. Everything is working great. FYI... you will loose all library music, and your GPS address book. I am in the DFW area if anyone needs some assistance. I did the exact same thing, I didn't want to pay the $43 US or whatever, so I forked over the $5 and loaded up the Z2 image, so unless you really have a lot of cd's or some data worth saving, the $5 unlocker with the Z2 image is perfect for an upgrade, but now I want to increase the boot speed, honestly the extra space for music would be nice, but I would LOVE to have a perm increase in speed like I saw in the 5400 but stable like original, and if possible maybe a 7200? Who knows lets find out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
js79 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Next I bit the bullet, and used the password unlocker ($5) on my original drive (no z1 backup to fall back to), turned ata security off, and then installed the image on th eoriginal drive. No rebooting issues. Everything is working great. FYI... you will loose all library music, and your GPS address book. I am in the DFW area if anyone needs some assistance. Where did you pay $5 to unlock the drive at? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodgeboy Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hitachi Travelstar HTS548040M9AT00 (40GB 5400 RPM) reboots around once every 45 minutes when driving. Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
InterruptVector Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 fujitsu MHV2040AH also exhibited the same reboot problem.... unlocked and reused the stock toshiba drive to put the z2 image on.. works flawlessly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
js79 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Toshiba MK4018GAS 40GB 4200 rpm - reboots Hitachi HTS548040M9AT00 40GB 5400 rpm- reboots Fujitsu MHT2040AT 40GB 4200 rpm - reboots All 3 would reboot after 10-15min. Currently trying - Hitachi DK23EA-30 30GB 4200 rpm - Tried for 20min and no reboots so far. Tommorow when i drive to work ill know for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garrettoomey Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Next I bit the bullet, and used the password unlocker ($5) on my original drive (no z1 backup to fall back to), turned ata security off, and then installed the image on th eoriginal drive. No rebooting issues. Everything is working great. FYI... you will loose all library music, and your GPS address book. I am in the DFW area if anyone needs some assistance. Where did you pay $5 to unlock the drive at? http://www.hddunlock.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dtomcat Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 OK, we know the original works fine. I never heard of a rebooting issue when the z1 image. So what happens when you use the same drives that were rebooting with a z1 image. If it's a hardware issue, shouldn't they reboot on a z1 image? and if it is only on a z2 image, then what is demanding the greater power. just a couple of questions for thought to maybe help out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rage2 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 OK, we know the original works fine. I never heard of a rebooting issue when the z1 image. So what happens when you use the same drives that were rebooting with a z1 image. If it's a hardware issue, shouldn't they reboot on a z1 image? and if it is only on a z2 image, then what is demanding the greater power. just a couple of questions for thought to maybe help out. That's a good question. Anyone have a Z1 image they can send me? I can do this test right away, I'm lining up 4 or 5 different drives for more testing this week! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rage2 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 and oh ya... Seagate Momentus 7200.1 (80G or 100G) - both reboots frequently regardless of heat or shock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
js79 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hitachi DK23EA-30 30GB 4200 rpm -- 2+ hours of driving with radio and dvd playing no reboots so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rage2 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I'm going to be getting a Sandisk flash drive, 32G for testing. No moving parts, much lower power draw, that should help confirm if it's a power draw issue . It's a LOT faster than standard HDD's, but it's kinda pricey at $1100 lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
js79 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hitachi DK23EA-30 30GB 4200 rpm ... Full day with this HDD and no problems at all .. radio, dvd, bluetooth ipod etc.. Not one reboot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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