Stephanie- Your obviously a whiz at this stuff and I don't have clue about doing any of this.
I'm new to this site and just purchased the F90BT; is there anyone in our area (Mississauag) that will do these mods like yours that I can drive to?
I'm just not confident/patient enough with this stuff.
Thanks
Ed
I just got done adding the software bypass on Vorians DATA.zip. I installed it on my unit (AVIC-F500BT) and grounded the parking brake...guess what... it does NOT WORK!!
Hey awesome! im glad you found help and got the whole unit to work, but once again a thread about font, color, icons, and buttons has been totally butchered, killed, and hijacked for ANOTHER BYPASS thread that has already been posted up, STICKY, and repeated post over and over and OVER AGAIN.
i can easily count over 50 posts about the BYPASS in this forum.
Maybe im being self-fish or something because I clicked on this topic BECAUSE I HONESTLY WANTED TO CHANGE COLOR AND FONT
And the moderator should change the title of this thread to:::
"COLOR :::///SLASH///::: BYPASS FOR THOSE THAT CANT FIND THE STICKY" thread.
You're kidding, right? I tend to agree that too many good threads get diverted to the bypass discussion, but let's be honest, that's what 99% of the people come here for. Let's also be honest that you, of all people, should be the last one throwing stones at "noobs" for not knowing enough. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're the originator of this little gem, right:
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19923
...but, I digress.
--Mav
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're the originator of this little gem, right:
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19923
...but, I digress.
--Mav
You're kidding, right? I tend to agree that too many good threads get diverted to the bypass discussion, but let's be honest, that's what 99% of the people come here for. Let's also be honest that you, of all people, should be the last one throwing stones at "noobs" for not knowing enough. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're the originator of this little gem, right:
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19923
...but, I digress.
--Mav
you know what? flame on.
your completely off topic
Your looking at the spec details here man and your totally missing the point. THIS IS A COLOR TOPIC PLEASE READ, ITS SPELLED OUT IN PLAIN SIMPLE ENGLISH
is it a bypass thread? DID I hijack this thread from someone?
and yes, please digress
Superman, was the point of this thread not covered within the first 3 pages? Writing a bashing post towards 'noobs' and how this thread off topic is doing exactly what you're complaining about..hijacking a thread.
Lets go back to Philosophy!
Fallacies in your argument Maverickster:
I love how you tried to sound so smart 
cause you FAIL
Maverickster= "You're kidding, right? I tend to agree that too many good threads get diverted to the bypass discussion, but let's be honest, that's what 99% of the people come here for."
Argumentum ad numerum: (argument of numbers) This fallacy is the attempt to justify something by showing numbers. Ex: "Its okay to hijack threads everyone is doing it! Thats what everyone is here for!"
Maverickster="but let's be honest, that's what 99% of the people come here for.
Argumentum ad ignorantiam (argu. of ignorance). This is the fallacy of assuming something is true simply because it hasn't been proven false like using fake statistics. Where are you getting your magic numbers from? this 99% based on fact or fabrication?
Maverickster= "Let's also be honest that you, of all people, should be the last one throwing stones at "noobs" for not knowing enough. "
Argumentum ad hominem: (against the man) This is the error of attacking the character or motives of a person who has stated an idea, rather than the idea itself.
Maverickster= "Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're the originator of this little gem, right http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19923" (no ? mark)
Cum hoc ergo propter hoc: (argu. of correlation) This common fallacy here means correlation between two variables does not imply that one causes the other. Ex: MAV here brings ANOTHER TOPIC that's a totally DIFFERENT TOPIC to explain this topic?
"Maverickster= ...but, I digress"
Only these three words and dots actually had any real and educational logic. Kudos!
Mav, Let me know if this was a little too complex for you. You see, I went to college, so I understand that this might be a bit over your head 
ALSO PLEASE THINK NEXT TIME BEFORE YOU POST so you don't repeat your embarrassing mistakes, you can really look like an idiot when you don't know what your talking about. I mean seriously, reread your post again, everything that you just typed was filled with fallacies. Uneducated comments is just one of my pet peeves.
but hey man, I digress as well... very nice!
My suggestion to you is to go take some classes at community college or even go to adult school if you have not yet completed that.
Best of luck to you and your education and let us know how that goes!
bypass
You want to change your icons, so you post in a thread that shows how to change the fonts and map colors? Show me in this thread where icons have been changed. If you want to do that you have to go into the Image.res file in the APL directory, so right from the beginning you were in the wrong thread. Read up on it, I've personally done a great deal of modifications with what you're looking for. How does bashing 'noobs' , asking about a hack that wasn't even mentioned here, and using philosophy not keep this thread off topic? This isn't a classroom, It's a forum. If you searched and found the right thread from the beginning, you'd already have your answers and wouldn't need to post here.
You want to change your icons, so you post in a thread that shows how to change the fonts and map colors? Show me in this thread where icons have been changed. If you want to do that you have to go into the Image.res file in the APL directory, so right from the beginning you were in the wrong thread. Read up on it, I've personally done a great deal of modifications with what you're looking for. How does bashing 'noobs' , asking about a hack that wasn't even mentioned here, and using philosophy not keep this thread off topic? This isn't a classroom, It's a forum. If you searched and found the right thread from the beginning, you'd already have your answers and wouldn't need to post here.
I haven't played with the software yet, thats why im trying to learn by reading these post.
no im not judging your modding skills at all. i personally think your awesome in that department. but where in my post did I beg for a hack? where did I ask for a hack?
and your right this is a FORUM and people talk about TOPICS and the general rule is to STAY ON TOPIC. (Topic posted >>> people reply) i dont need to know what has already been posted up, reposted and sticky.
no its not a classroom, but Mav brought it up, and when someone says something wrong about me, i intend to straighten them out and fix it using logic. im browsing through info here, am i not allowed to do that? I WAS interested in this topic too (notice how i use the past tense). and frankly, its worthless info.
I asking for just a little bit of logic man, thats all.
Page 1-3 is font and map colors. Not what you're looking for.
Page 4-6 is the bypass. Still not what you're looking for.
No one said you're not allowed to search and read, that's always encouraged before creating a new thread. But there's searching and not finding what you're looking for, and then there's searching, not finding what you're looking for, and then bashing members for going off topic when you were in the wrong thread to begin with. But I digress (very popular phrase), and for the sake of not causing a grudge, here's what you do want:
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... sc&start=0
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=122072
Between the info in those 2 threads, and what I just told you above, it should be all the info you need. Also download 7zip to decompress/compress the .res file. I'm sure it's mentioned between those 2 threads. Happy hacking and post your results when you're finished.
Cool man and thanks. and no i dont want to start anything with you but Tell me where i was wrong and ill retract my statements. Where? Even if its not what im looking for, is that the point? So what im in the wrong topic post, is that the point?
ALSO KNOWN AS A PREMISE: a statement, claim, or proposition supporting a conclusion.
MY PREMISE boiled down: "THIS TOPIC GOT BYPASS HIJACKED" (that is my main point, not about what im looking for or whatever)
Then I supported it by adding in statements and evidence why this topic is worthless.
1. pancho asking about bypass mod in a FONT topic
2. pancho asking advice for his faulty installation
3. pancho obviously didn't use the search button.
4. This was obviously a sticky!
Conclusion: Make a new topic and ask questions there if you have to. DONT HIJACK. you dig?
Also if you think about it, i was never off topic. if anything, i followed through with the topic. Fonts/colors >>> bypass >>> me talking about bypass people and topics. see the flow?
Just dude, please dont fight me on this okay? I know im right, and if you think about it, you will agree that im right too. dont you tell them once in a while to "use the search button?" Well this is more like "dont hijack its really rude."
I got nothing but admiration for you Catchmeifyoucan, but dont fight me on this, I already know im right. If you want to see an uneducated and off topic comment, please refer to Mav's comment again, he demonstrated that perfectly! It makes no sense. So dont be defending him now, your backing up the losing side. Sadly the dude lacks common sense. Dont follow his path 
Holy mother of monkeys Superman, you got powned but then you turned around and you just totally counter powned both of them. This is the first time ive seen someone use the Latin translation of the fallacies. Thats beyond bad ass, thats pure class man, a proper pownage. You totally broke it down to like simple building blocks like it was 1+1=2 then flamed them! I had to admit, that was pretty awesome.
superman isn't exactly wrong you know? maybe a little over the top with the noob bashing but not wrong. this thread wuz a font topic at one point.
I haven't played with the software yet, thats why im trying to learn by reading these post.
I suggest you stick to the reading then, since your posting activities leave a little something to be desired. There's lots of good information here posted by good people who know what they're doing and who take the time out of their busy days to help others. That's what most of the posting in this forum is -- intelligent, well-thought-out questioning, and informed answers. I'm relatively new here, but on behalf of us all, I think you (and we) would be well served if you read through some of these threads to get a basic understanding of how the software operates, and then, if you have questions, you'll be able to ask them intelligently instead of rambling on and launching tirades against "noobs" (of which, you are clearly one). To get you started, here are several I found helpful:
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18977
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17390
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18175
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17809
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18248
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19307
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17820
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17337
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17753
That said, you should feel free to not bother asking me for any help.
--Mav
P.S. Incidentally, it's called hyperbole. If you had a double minor in english and philosophy, you'd know that but...oh wait...that's not you...that's someone else I know. You're the one whose inability to string together a proper sentence or coherent thought belies his attempt to appear educated.
P.P.S. Nice work creating a separate user to pat yourself on the back. Well done.
Hey what did I say? I warned you think before you look like a dumbass.
Your getting off topic again. So let me tear you another new poohole to make your bathroom trips more efficient.
Using big words and using OTHER TOPICS does not make you look smarter or support your conclusion, your just proving my point. Also making up random facts you dumb idiot. Then your attacking grammar instead of my point, appeal to the man?
Maverickster= "(of which, you are clearly one)"
Now im not denying that im a noob, I am but at least i know some sense to post a different topic if im going to ask a question. Also I'll take it back if you can tell me if where in the product website and instruction manual states that the F90bt has a Solid state hard drive.
Here is an example for you:
My premise: Mav is uneducated >>WHY?>> makes no sense, off topic, makes up numbers, and he lies. >> Conclusion>> Mav is REALLY UNEDUCATED.
You like that new user thing? yeah? how would you know that was even me? you got no support to back up your claim. Just because he has 5 posts before makes him me? does that also make Freddie me? or anyone that recently joined and read this me? Are you the moderator?
Arug. of correlation again, and you put a lot of redundant links and you assume yourself to be a pro and the moderator? appeal to authority.
Just because you say something doesn't make it true (also known as a lie).
I don't know where you went to school but I seriosuly hope you get a refund cause you just got ripped off. Its so evident that its seeping all over.
And minja is right, you just got properly owned. please please please... think before you reply! your putting humanity to shame.
Hey you know what?
I'll take it back if you can tell me if where in the product website and instruction manual states that the F90bt has a Solid state hard drive.
yeah?
Please see Page 1 of your user's guide: "Flash Memory Multimedia AV Navigation Receiver".
Are we finished here?
I am. Thank you.
--Mav
Hey you know what?
I'll take it back if you can tell me if where in the product website and instruction manual states that the F90bt has a Solid state hard drive.
yeah?
Please see Page 1 of your user's guide: "Flash Memory Multimedia AV Navigation Receiver".
Are we finished here?
I am. Thank you.
--Mav
LOL you actually popped in your CD and looked, thats cute! Finally your on topic, a sub topic but still im impressed. Yeah, im done talking to you too. I mean your totally right Mav! It has flash memory!
"A solid-state drive (SSD) is a data storage device that uses solid-state memory to store persistent data. An SSD using SRAM or DRAM (instead of flash memory) is often called a RAM-drive."-wiki (Mav's only source for creditable information)
Trick statement which I wanted you to walked into, solid state HARD DRIVE and flash MEMORY are different things. While SSD is based on flash, the F90BT doesn't have a SSD. The unit has MEMORY sorry my friend! LOL
Im sorry you wasted your time popping in your CD. I rest my case, or in your words I DIGRESSSSSSSSS.
you saying you have expertise and a double major is appeal to authority, which I doubt you have any of that education under your belt now from your uneducated posts. A dictionary? yes. logic? sadly and painfully no. trying to reason with you is like trying to reason with a child. I mean you are over 13 for these forums right? I hope you are aware that there is an age restriction.
Schooling you was my pleasure, so your welcome! 
P.S. Im not your friend.
P.P.S I have helpful links for you too Mav
http://www.sparknotes.com/testprep/book ... ion2.rhtml
http://www.wikihow.com/Think (HOW TO THINK)
www.collegeofme.com (helps you get a proper education)
Hey you know what?
I'll take it back if you can tell me if where in the product website and instruction manual states that the F90bt has a Solid state hard drive.
yeah?
Please see Page 1 of your user's guide: "Flash Memory Multimedia AV Navigation Receiver".
Are we finished here?
I am. Thank you.
--Mav
LOL you actually popped in your CD and looked, thats cute! Finally your on topic, a sub topic but still im impressed. Yeah, im done talking to you too. I mean your totally right Mav! It has flash memory!
"A solid-state drive (SSD) is a data storage device that uses solid-state memory to store persistent data. An SSD using SRAM or DRAM (instead of flash memory) is often called a RAM-drive."-wiki (Mav's only source for creditable information)
Trick question which I wanted you to walked into, solid state HARD DRIVE and flash MEMORY are different things. While SSD is based on flash, the F90BT doesn't have a SSD. The unit has MEMORY LOL nice try.
Im sorry you wasted your time popping in your CD. I rest my case, or in your words I DIGRESSSSSSSSS.
you saying you have expertise and a double major is appeal to authority, which I doubt you have any of that education under your belt now from your uneducated posts. A dictionary? yes. logic? sadly and painfully no. trying to reason with you is like trying to reason with a child. I mean you are over 13 for these forums right? I hope you are aware that there is an age restriction. sorry my friend!
Schooling you was my pleasure, so your welcome!
P.S. Im not your friend.
P.P.S I have helpful links for you too Mav
http://www.sparknotes.com/testprep/book ... ion2.rhtml
http://www.wikihow.com/Think (HOW TO THINK)
www.collegeofme.com (helps you get a proper education)
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... port?tab=E
As for Pioneer's use of the term "flash" as opposed to SSD, it is accurate. Flash is a subset of SSD; the other being RAM drives. So if one describes their device as a "flash memory" device, they are, by definition, saying it is an SSD device -- a particular type of SSD device, but an SSD device nonetheless. So if one asks to be shown where Pioneer identified the device as an SSD device; it is accurate to point that person to where Pioneer identified it as a flash device. I'd suggest you re-read the wiki entry you quoted a little more carefully as it accurately identifies this distinction.
You're welcome.
I am finished with this. Good luck to you.
--Mav
and i need to thank you for helping make a sig, I wanted something clever and funny.
Just give up, im done slapping you around silly. i have pity for you bro and im worried about your mental health. Frankly I don't want to continue this because I feel like i have to sink down to your level just for you to understand anything. I mean your obviously not going up to my level.
P.S. Im not your bro
and your welcome, i hope schooling you will be a lesson to hijackers like yourself.
Where does it say solid state hard drive? you expect me or anyone else to research and look for it? post the line up and cite it at least.
Just give up, im done slapping you around silly. i have pity for you bro and im worried about your mental health.
and i need to thank you for helping make a sig, I wanted something clever and funny.
P.S. Im not your bro
Click on the link to the Owner's Manual. Look on the cover page: "Flash Memory Multimedia AV Navigation Receiver". As accurately indicated in the wiki entry you quoted, flash memory is a type of SSD (again, with RAM-drives being the other type). Thus, by definition, identifying the device as a "flash memory" device is the same as identifying it as an SSD device. That's the way subsets work.
Thank you.
--Mav
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... port?tab=E
I'd suggest you re-read the wiki entry you quoted a little more carefully as it accurately identifies this distinction.
I understand subsets and what your trying to do. You almost made a real and proper argument, kudos! Thanks I did reread the wiki:
"A solid-state drive (SSD) is a data storage device that uses solid-state memory to store persistent data.-Wiki
Watch this Mav
All SSD has Flash drives
All flash drives are SSD (wrong)
All cats are animals, yes
All animals are cats, (wrong) Don't generalize it, they got names for them for a reason. You violated correlation again.
Don't worry, I got nice colorful pictures for you. feel free to print out.
HARD DRIVE
MEMORY
Guess whats jammed inside it now Mav? Does that look even the same to you? same technology but different form.
I also love how you completely avoided an ignored the hijacker bashing now (which was the main point). i dominated in that department by shredding up your comment word-by-word. thats what you get when you fabricate your own numbers to prove a weak point!
Your not gonna be a knight in shining armor for the hijacker anymore?
Mav, your very welcome! Im glad to help you out son, let you know how wrong you are.
P.S. Mav, your not my son. never. ill abort/disown you.
Who the hell cares? Such childish behavior. It's crap like this that drives people away. What's the benefit of this. Take it private.
Hey Moderator - Can you lock this?
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... port?tab=E
I'd suggest you re-read the wiki entry you quoted a little more carefully as it accurately identifies this distinction.
I understand subsets and what your trying to do. You almost made a real and proper argument, kudos! Thanks I did reread the wiki:
"A solid-state drive (SSD) is a data storage device that uses solid-state memory to store persistent data.-Wiki
Watch this Mav
All SSD has Flash drives
All flash drives are SSD (wrong)
All cats are animals, yes
All animals are cats, (wrong) Don't generalize it, they got names for them for a reason. You violated correlation again.
Don't worry, I got nice colorful pictures for you. feel free to print out.
HARD DRIVE
MEMORY
Guess whats jammed inside it now Mav? Does that look even the same to you? same technology but different form.
I also love how you completely avoided an ignored the hijacker bashing now (which was the main point). i dominated in that department by shredding up your comment word-by-word. thats what you get when you fabricate your own numbers to prove a weak point!
Your not gonna be a knight in shining armor for the hijacker anymore?
Mav, your very welcome! Im glad to help you out son, let you know how wrong you are.
P.S. Mav, your not my son. never. ill abort/disown you.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... port?tab=E
I'd suggest you re-read the wiki entry you quoted a little more carefully as it accurately identifies this distinction.
I understand subsets and what your trying to do. You almost made a real and proper argument, kudos! Thanks I did reread the wiki:
"A solid-state drive (SSD) is a data storage device that uses solid-state memory to store persistent data.-Wiki
Watch this Mav
All SSD has Flash drives
All flash drives are SSD (wrong)
All cats are animals, yes
All animals are cats, (wrong) Don't generalize it they got names for them for a reason. You violated correlation again.
Don't worry, I got nice colorful pictures for you. feel free to print out.
HARD DRIVE
MEMORY
Guess whats jammed inside it now Mav? Does that look even the same to you? same technology but different form. should I speak in something you can understand? durr durr, de de deee
Im glad to help you out son, so your welcome.
i love how you completely avoided an ignored the noobie bashing now (which was the main point), i dominated in that department by shredding up your comment word-by-word. thats what you get when you fabricate your own numbers to prove a weak point!
thank you.
P.S. your not my son. never. ill abort/disown you.
Not what I'm saying at all. Close, but you have it inverted. I'm saying all flash drives are SSD by definition (although, not all SSD is flash); or, to use your analogy, alll cats are animals, but not all animals are cats. So if someone asks, "show me where the manual says it's SSD-based", if the manual says it's a flash memory device, then it's saying it's an SSD device. Just like if someone asks, "show me where the manual says it's an animal", if the manual says it's a cat, then it's saying it's an animal.
If you had asked, "show me where the manual says it's flash-based", and if the manual had said it's SSD, it would've been incorrect for me to point you to where it says it's SSD to prove it's flash based (because it could be SSD without being flash-based). But, that's not what happened here. You asked me to show you where it said it was SSD; I pointed you to where it says it's flash based; and that was accurate (because, by definition, if it's flash-based, it's SSD).
You may feel free to continue to belabor the point, but the more you go on, the more you come off looking ill-informed. If you don't understand it at this point, that's your problem. I'm finished trying to explain it to you.
I hope you enjoy your unit and that you get as much information out of this site as I did. The folks here are great. You would be well-served to start treating the contributors with a little respect.
Thank you.
--Mav
No im done, i dont need to prove anything. Everybody here has been generally nice and helpful. This isnt even about noobs, and I will fully admit im a noob myself. the point was simple, this thread got hijacked by another bypass topic and i voiced my opinion, and you pretty much defended the hijacking, justified it, and bashed me on a different topic altogether.
I will not debate about the definition of harddrives and noobs anymore. However, i still feel strongly that this was another obvious bypass hijacking you were looking at this from an incorrect perspective. even looking at the wrong point/premise. The problem is with pancho, although you did intervened and completely missed my premise.
My rant boiled down (MAIN POINT): "This topic got bypass hijacked"
I apologize if you still dont understand that.
we should resolve this like adults.
Happy hacking to everybody, im sorry to everyone on this forum for this detour, everyone should post threads and topics where they belong. Make new topics if you have to, and of course, use the search button. Its there for a reason. 
Also a hint for everyone here is that if your gonna be defending something thats already wrong (changing topics, backing up a hijacker, ect), then careful, you might be proven completely wrong.
-sup
