sportsfan21 Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Haha ducati... ok so maybe I was a little off on that one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bodydrop101 Posted March 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 ok i tried the old bypass and grounded the bottom right pin and the parking brake wire. I am pretty sure it was right but i couldn't pull it back out to check. It didn't work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bodydrop101 Posted March 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 The truck hasn't been driven for more than 100miles so maybe it will work after that like ducati says. but from what i recall the last z1 worked right away after the bypass........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducatiboy Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 ok i tried the old bypass and grounded the bottom right pin and the parking brake wire. I am pretty sure it was right but i couldn't pull it back out to check. It didn't work. Â Ok, when you said it didn't work.... did it not bypass the unit while standing still? When you started moving it locked you out? Â When you check the connection status does the parking brake register as on all the time? Â The truck hasn't been driven for more than 100miles so maybe it will work after that like ducati says. but from what i recall the last z1 worked right away after the bypass........ Â Generally the Z1 would be bypassed just by grounding the parking brake sense wire. And that's all you needed for the first 30 - 100 miles or so. Once the Z1 was calibrated, you needed more for the bypass. Â So if the Z2 is anything like the Z1, just grounding the parking brake sense wire will bypass it while sitting still and while driving for the first few miles or so. Once the 3d sensors are calibrated, it will use those and lock you out. Â If it's not working now, it won't magically start working in 50 miles or so. It only went the other way, started out working and then after a few miles it stopped working. Â So that makes me think that either something is much more different with the Z2 than originally thought or your bypassing is not as "complete" as you thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bodydrop101 Posted March 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 when it comes on it gives the improper connection of parking brake popup. Â It is unlocked until you go over 15mph. then locks out the the stuff. after you stop it comes back on. Â I can call the customer to see if the connection status says its on if you want me to tomarrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducatiboy Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 when it comes on it gives the improper connection of parking brake popup. It is unlocked until you go over 15mph. then locks out the the stuff. after you stop it comes back on.  I can call the customer to see if the connection status says its on if you want me to tomarrow.  To get rid of the improper connection pop up you need to press the recessed button to the right of the eject button on the bottom left of the unit. That will get rid of that message.  I have seen where the Z1 was bypassed correctly and since that pop up was coming up, the system was NOT bypassed. But when you reset the unit the pop up went away and the system started being bypassed. But this was only when the system was bypassed incorrectly at first (just grounding the parking brake sense wire) and then later they changed it but didn't reset the unit.  If resetting with that button doesn't work and driving around brings that message back then either the pin in connector 2 wasn't done correctly or they changed the bypass from the Z1 to the Z2.  I still don't think they would have, but if you get it back, pull out connector 2 and power up the Z2 and measure the voltage on that pin, if it's 12V then chances are that it's still the bypass just like the Z1 and you didn't insert the terminal fully or correctly into connector 2. I get emails at least 1/day about people who think the Z1 bypass doesn't work because they get exactly what you are seeing with this Z2 and it always turns out to be a problem with the insertion of the terminal into connector 2 (wire #2 on my site http://www.sminntech.com/z1flash.html#newbypass).  I don't want to doubt your abilities but I would put my money on a problem with wire #2 than the bypass doesn't work on a Z2 or they changed it. I have been wrong before, but not knowing anything about the Z2 that's what I would guess right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bodydrop101 Posted March 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 I'll call him tomarrow and try to reset it. Â I pulled out the yellow wire for the guide and put it into the new hole in the plug pin 2. So im hoping it is making contact. He was in a rush to leave today and didn't have time to check that pin or any others for polarity. there is also a chance that the pin could have came back out of the connector but I'm pretty sure that I checked it after I plugged it in. Â hopefully I did do it wrong and it does work, because this is an easy bypass. Â As far as pioneer changing the unit I think it is the same as a z1. the customer that I installed it for has a z1 in his other truck and when he picked it up he said it was basically the same. Â lets keep our fingers crossed that it is right and the reset on the unit will work. Thankyou ducati for all your help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobmun Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I just swapped my z1 to z2 bypass is not working. I used the same wires. It worked on the z1. I tried a reset to no avail. I will look into it some more tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YzRacer Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I am very interested in this bypass myself, I have a Z1 but I will be switching to a Z2 when my local shop gets one in stock, however I was told this would be 3 more weeks. If you guys don't have it figured out by then, I will be happy to help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigred Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 when it comes on it gives the improper connection of parking brake popup. It is unlocked until you go over 15mph. then locks out the the stuff. after you stop it comes back on.   This sounds interesting to me, since I really dont care about watching DVD's while driving (it would be cool for my passengers, but muh). It sounds like if you do the parking break ground, it will let you use the full navigation features while stopped at say a stop light or sign. Which would be a big plus, to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AFMagnum Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I am very interested in this bypass myself, I have a Z1 but I will be switching to a Z2 when my local shop gets one in stock, however I was told this would be 3 more weeks. If you guys don't have it figured out by then, I will be happy to help. Â I've seen this a few times now. Why are people "swapping" their Z1 for a Z2? Are you saying you're paying another $2K for the same box instead of waiting for the $250 update? I don't get it. Am I missing something here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobmun Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I am very interested in this bypass myself, I have a Z1 but I will be switching to a Z2 when my local shop gets one in stock, however I was told this would be 3 more weeks. If you guys don't have it figured out by then, I will be happy to help. Â I've seen this a few times now. Why are people "swapping" their Z1 for a Z2? Are you saying you're paying another $2K for the same box instead of waiting for the $250 update? I don't get it. Am I missing something here? Â My Z1 was defective so my dealer swapped it for the Z2. And from what I've seen so far I would not pay for an upgrade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AFMagnum Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 My Z1 was defective so my dealer swapped it for the Z2. And from what I've seen so far I would not pay for an upgrade. Â Ah, so now that makes sense. I saw you and someone else say they switched their Z1. I wasn't sure if this was "just because." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobmun Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 well I checked the wiring it seems to be right, the bypass is not working. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jace93 Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 z2 bypass seems to be the same. I did a z2 yesterday and it works the same as z1 but still gives parking brake message but does not lock out nav or dvd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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