talontsiawd Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Ok, we all know the boot time is irritating. And thus far, it seems it can't be fixed. My only problem is when i stop for a short period of time, say a convience store and have to wait 1 min again for it. I'm looking for something to keep it on during short stops where i may be 5 min. maximum, maybe 1 min. Right now, i'm thinking about putting a turbo timer on switched 12volt source. Obviously, this would do the trick. However, that's one more thing i have to find a spot for in my car and they are not small enough to hide easily but still remain accessable to defeat it. I could put a switch in though but couldn't adjust the time if it was totally hidden. There is and issue of cost too, i have one but don't know if it still works, but something simpler would be nicer. I definitely don't want it to be something i can't defeat because you can't turn the screen off. There are people who steal your stereo because they see it but i'm much more worried about the people who figure out that you have something worth stealing and pay attention to where your car may be at when you arn't going to be quick enough to catch them. Anyway, any ideas on this? If my old turbo timer still works, it's and obvious but i'm sure other people may want to do the same. I'd prefer something that you would turn on rather than turn off as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CamelTowing Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Why not just get a remote start alarm that works a good distance away so the nav is booted up by the time you get in it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
talontsiawd Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 First, my car has an immobilizer system stock and with a shock sensor, it basically has what i'd pay for in a decently high dollar system paying just for the shock sensor. Secondly, every aftermarket alarm system i have had myself (only 1) and most of my friends have had problems over time with aftermarket alarms in cars with legit alarms. Lastly, this would work great in instances where i'm about to leave somewhere i've been but if i'm running inside to 7-11 to grab a beer or stopping to pick somebody up, i may as well leave my car on (but i can't lock my car with the ignition on with the stock alarm). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superjet Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 An aftermarket alarm/remote start sure sounds like the answer to me. With a viper for instance, you engage the r/s, then take the key out. The vehicle will stay running and you can arm the alarm also. Of course, you need a good installer to make everything go smottly while integrating into the car. What kind of vehicle is this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CamelTowing Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 No problems with my remote start in 3+ years. Just make sure you have someone install it that knows what they are doing. On really hot days in situations like your 7-11 example, I pull into the spot, turn off the car and get out. Arm the alarm. Trigger the remote start. Go into 7-11 and do my thing. Go back out to the car and drive away. In the mean time, the car has been blowing AC (and the deck has been on the whole time I was shoppin.) Seems more convenient than rigging a bunch of switches or a turbo timer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
offroaderf150 Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 what i was planning on doing was hooking up a relay from my remote start/alarm's output channels that stays on after activating to turn on the radio. that way i could either remote start my car and the car and radio will be running by the time i get to it, or i can just activate the radio to turn on so that its booted up by the time i get to the car. oh and ive had the same viper remote start alarm for 4 years without a single issue. if you always have had problems id suggest a better installer. most of the time its the install that causes problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HiFiSi Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Any kind of timer that keeps the radio on or turns it on early will not work. Having the radio on and booted up before the engine is running is a waste, as cranking on the starter will cut the power to the radio so you will end up having to wait anyway. My guess would be to either leave the car running or get a remote starter so you can start it up ahead of time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CatchMeIfYouCan631 Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 keep in mind though that some remote starters wont turn on the radio when the car is started. i had a Viper alarm/rs and the unit only turned on when i physically turned the key Quote Link to post Share on other sites
offroaderf150 Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Any kind of timer that keeps the radio on or turns it on early will not work. Having the radio on and booted up before the engine is running is a waste, as cranking on the starter will cut the power to the radio so you will end up having to wait anyway. My guess would be to either leave the car running or get a remote starter so you can start it up ahead of time. not unless you wire it up to a constant power source that will not cut out during crank. ive done it before with my truck. the radio never cut out while cranking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HiFiSi Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 ^ I guess it depends on how much amps the starter pulls versus how many amps the battery can put out. I've had electronics wired directly to my battery in my previous Honda as well as my brother's Celica, and they always powered down when the starter was cranked... I guess it just depends on the vehicle, really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
offroaderf150 Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 yeah true....that was in my 98 f150. my mustang is the same way, depends on the battery and starter like you said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superjet Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 It is possible to have the radio going during remote start, just have the installer power up that extra accessory at the ignition harness. Energizing the remote start while the key is still on will eliminate the need to restart the vehicle, it will just stay running when you pull the key out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unityracing Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Any kind of timer that keeps the radio on or turns it on early will not work. Having the radio on and booted up before the engine is running is a waste, as cranking on the starter will cut the power to the radio so you will end up having to wait anyway. My guess would be to either leave the car running or get a remote starter so you can start it up ahead of time. Most newer cars dont do this. I have an 04 GTO and even with a big V8 my radio stays on the entire time. I have also had 7 turbo eclipses, and can tell you the apexi turbo timer is a small hide away box and the control "stick" is about the size of a sharpie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hellodave Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Having the radio on and booted up before the engine is running is a waste, as cranking on the starter will cut the power to the radio so you will end up having to wait anyway. I think the F series is immune to this, as mine survives crank, even though my old head unit didn't. It's not too hard (or expensive) to make a DC-DC converter that outputs 12v for input voltages between 6v and 30v (I used one in a CarPC), so this may be what Pioneer has done . Remember that power isn't cut during crank, but the voltage drops very low (8-9v), which isn't enough to run most head units - the DC-DC converter solves this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blindmind3 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 FWIW: mine cuts out during crank Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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