interplay Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Nope not at 10 mph. Not when I start my vehicle either, Before I leave my driveway. Last time I saw It, I had plotted a route and just put it in drive. My vehicle had only moved a few inches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dianebrat Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Nope not at 10 mph.Not when I start my vehicle either, Before I leave my driveway. Last time I saw It, I had plotted a route and just put it in drive. My vehicle had only moved a few inches. But the key seems to be having it notice that it sees both the parking brake and the GPS (could also be VSS in F9x units) The point is, it's a sign something in the install is hinky, not that they have to be grounded separately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ninety4formula Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I was wondering if the VSS wire would play any part in this hardware bypass not working. I have the F90BT and hooked it up so it knows that I am moving. Does moving the mute wire disable something that tells it I'm moving? I haven't disconnected the VSS to try this, but I did ground my PB wire separately and I'm still having the problem. I thought that a ground was a ground, but figured that I would give it a try. I don't want to mess with the software aspect because I'm not a big computer person. Would just putting the PB on a switch work with the mute wire moved as well? I don't know if the PB wire looks for a positive signal before the ground or not. Any ideas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joegr Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 No, it works correctly with VSS connected. Best guess is you didn't move the mute wire to the correct location, or didn't do the software bypass correctly. I have the F90BT. It works correctly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ninety4formula Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I moved the mute wire just like the pic said to. I moved it from the first pin in the top row to the 4th in the bottom row. I didn't do the software bypass. I don't want to get into it unless I absolutely have to. I just don't understand why it works for some and not for others. Like I said in my first post I soldered both wires to my ground going to the factory harness and it didn't work. When I start moving and hit 10 mph I get the error saying that the PB wire isn't grounded properly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joegr Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Did you solder the wires to the same ground wire in the harness as the back power ground from the head-unit? Did you verify that the moved pin was correctly locked in the connector? (Pull on the wire, if it comes out, it was not pushed all the way in or the pin was damaged when you removed it from the mute position. If you get a message saying that the PB wire is not connected properly, then that means that you have correctly grounded the parking brake wire. It means that the bypass wire (was the mute wire) is not correctly grounded or correctly inserted into the correct connector position. There aren't any other possibilities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ninety4formula Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I pulled on the mute wire and it didn't come out when I put it in. I will double check to make sure that I didn't damage it when I moved it. If I did damage it, is there another wire that I can use in its place or somewhere where I can get one? I will check it out and hopefully it just didn't go in all the way or something simple. I did solder them both to the black wire coming out of the back of the deck. I worked at circuit city for a few years doing installs, but like I said before, when I worked there the N1 just came out and we didn't really sell any that I got to install. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
interplay Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Mine is an f700 so no vss wire. The part that threw me was that there was no warning when I had the grounds wired separately... one to the harness and one to the chassis. I even took it for a drive like that because the the double din kit didn't fit properly and I went back to the shop to get parts. When I came back and soldered them both to the harness, then I got the error. The VSS is supposed to only be used when there is no gps signal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dianebrat Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Mine is an f700 so no vss wire. The part that threw me was that there was no warning when I had the grounds wired separately... one to the harness and one to the chassis. I even took it for a drive like that because the the double din kit didn't fit properly and I went back to the shop to get parts. When I came back and soldered them both to the harness, then I got the error. That sounds more like a situation where you hadn't properly grounded the green parking brake wire, no grounded parking brake wire, no warning! It still sounds like you have the parking brake wire grounded properly, but the bypass isn't done correctly. Without anyone else looking at it, that's what the descriptions keep pointing to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ninety4formula Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I just went out and checked my mute wire. It wasn't latched all the way. It wasn't loose, but it wasn't in and wasn't making good contact with the wire. I made sure it was in all the way and now I'm good to go. Thanks everyone for the help. It was greatly appreciated!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darwalk Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Just finished this on my 2008 4Runner. Switched the yellow/ black, soldered everything together at the ground wire, and it works perfectly. I just bought the F900 with the 2.0 already installed as well, so it worked with a brand new one. Thanks all!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boomer822 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I just installed the F90 in my 05 FX4 Supercab did the hardware bypass and this thing works like a champ. I would like to thank all the people that are smarter than I who took the time to figure this out. Your help is much appreciated! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DoDouble Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Hey guys, newb here. Just wired up my F90BT last night. I moved the Mute wire and grounded it along with the Parking Brake wire. As of right now I don't have my VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) wire connected out of the assumption that it would defeat the bypass. Can I connect this? Or shall I leave it as is? Thank you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dianebrat Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Hey guys, newb here. Just wired up my F90BT last night. I moved the Mute wire and grounded it along with the Parking Brake wire. As of right now I don't have my VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) wire connected out of the assumption that it would defeat the bypass. Can I connect this? Or shall I leave it as is? Connect away, it does not break the bypass Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imracerx Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 not sure what happened. has anyone had this problem or know whats going on? basically pulled the unit out, switched the mute wire to its new spot, plugged it back up and all i get is the fan to spin (unit gets power) the fronts and rears to hum and the subs pop upon plugging/unplugging sub outputs, and the screen is dead. Help! thanks! John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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